Do you believe this?

**michael jordan** · May 23rd, 2007, 12:18 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: retiredteach</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Actually, God is not all about love. He does inflict wrath also. Remember Sodom. Remember what happened to Lot. Jacob have I loved and Esau have I hated, even from the womb. Esau had not yet committed sin, but the Bible says that God hated him. I don't intend to get into any kind of religious argument with anyone, but read the scripture which says, "If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves and pray, and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from God and save their people. </div></div>

YOu are right. But maybe he knew what Esua was going to do.

**michael jordan** · May 23rd, 2007, 12:20 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R0cketer</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: weedeater</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The 2nd question was if someone believes does not believe in God, does that mean that they just die and it is over? Sadly that is not true. tHE bIBLE TEACHES US TO CHOOSE THIS DAY WHOM WE WILL SERVE. God is the judge so he is the one that will seperate the sheep from the goats. It is only 2 choices, Heaven or hell, I believe this.
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You didn't take things into context as usual. The verse said (paraphrasing here) that whomsoever believeth in me should have everlasting life. If someone doesn't believe, do they have everlasting life?

Your trying to answer questions to something I posted about people having questions on even one of the most basic of Bible verses and if entire religions have questions about the meaning, are you so egotistical to think that what you think has to be right?

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I never implied anything did I? I am not always right on everything. I was just giving my opinions on them. Am I allowed to do that?

**R0cketer** · May 23rd, 2007, 12:57 PM

LOL you confuse yourself, you know that?

**michael jordan** · May 23rd, 2007, 12:59 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R0cketer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">LOL you confuse yourself, you know that? </div></div>

I nor Pac-Man or anyone else has anything to do with any of the odd posters that are posting. YOu should be able to check it and see where it is coming from, or do you already know?

**R0cketer** · May 23rd, 2007, 01:08 PM

Did you just say I nor Pac-man mplying that they are different people??

And you wonder why I dont believe a word you say...

**michael jordan** · May 23rd, 2007, 01:10 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R0cketer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Did you just say I nor Pac-man mplying that they are different people??

And you wonder why I dont believe a word you say... </div></div>

I did not mean to imply that, no.

**R0cketer** · May 23rd, 2007, 01:22 PM

LOL how could you have made a comment like that and not been implying that.

I nor PacMan implies two people. Not one.

**michael jordan** · May 23rd, 2007, 01:33 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R0cketer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">LOL how could you have made a comment like that and not been implying that.

I nor PacMan implies two people. Not one.
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Well, this is Pac-Man... yes Weedeater and Pac-man are the same people. Mt intentions was not to decieve anyone, I just have a few posters that follow me around on here and start trouble. I have not agreeed with everything that Rock has done on here or said, but I was wrong for calling him out on it. He is the owner of this forum and I guess he does the best he can, So Rock I am sorry, really I am, it was wrong of me. I just got caught up in the drama. I make mistakes, it just seemed like you were always pushing me or something, I should have been more mature about it, but I was not.I do not feel like I lied about anything. YOu said once that I said something was on my heart.. it was and I never tried to claim I authored that writing. I read it several times for my own benefit and then i posted it.When you ask me for the Manson tapes, the only reason I did not respond is because I watched them 3 to 4 years ago and do not have access to them, and considering the conversation at the time, you would have tried to make me to be a liar, but that is the truth. I feel like I need to work on not being so confrontational, I agree with that, so I will work on it. But I only ask if you see other posters being that way with me, you would pm them and tell them also please. I never posted under any other names except, hokiebird, pac-man, and weedeater. So any other poster that appeared to be me was not. Rock you can check that and confirm what I am saying.